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Spring 1900. A storm drives Greek sponge divers to shelter near a barren rock called Antikythera. When the weather clears, they dive—and discover a Roman shipwreck filled with marble statues and bronze sculptures.
Among the treasure: a corroded, greenish lump the size of a shoebox. It looked like junk. For two years, it sat forgotten in museum storage—until it cracked open, revealing a precision-cut bronze gear inside.
From 60 BCE.
This is the story of the Antikythera Mechanism: an ancient analog computer that predicted eclipses, tracked planetary motion, and used engineering that wouldn't appear again for 1,400 years. It's like finding a jet engine in King Tut's tomb.
In this episode, we explore what it could do, how it worked, who built it, and the haunting question: if they had this technology 2,000 years ago, where did it go?
Plus: the pin-and-slot mechanism that modeled Kepler's laws before Kepler, and why 20% of its functions remain a mystery.
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Show Notes
Key Topics Covered:
The Discovery: Spring 1900 (0:00-2:10)
Greek sponge divers blown off course by storm near Antikythera
Captain Demetrios Kondos shelters near barren rock between Crete and mainland Greece
Diver Elias Stadiatis descends 42 meters, surfaces in panic
Reports "naked women and horses rotting on the seabed"
Captain assumes nitrogen narcosis (rapture of the deep)
Kondos dives himself—discovers massive Roman shipwreck from ~60 BCE
"Hallucinations" were marble statues and bronze sculptures, green with corrosion
The Treasure & The Lump (2:10-3:03)
Over one year: recovered glass, jewelry, famous Antikythera Youth statue
Among treasure: corroded greenish lump, size of shoebox
Wood and bronze fused by 2,000 years of calcification
Looked like junk—nobody cared
Sat in Athens museum storage for 2 years while everyone admired statues
The Gear: May 17, 1902 (3:03-3:49)
Archaeologist Valerios Stais examines the lump
It had cracked open from drying out
Inside: precision-cut bronze gear with triangular teeth
"That's the moment the timeline broke"
Roman ships didn't have gears like this
That technology doesn't appear in historical record for another 1,200 years
"Like finding a jet engine in King Tut's tomb"
Named: The Antikythera Mechanism
For decades: technological ghost, mystery unsolvable
Modern X-ray tomography finally revealed what it was
The Physical Object (3:49-4:30)
Wooden box: ~34 x 18 cm (size of large hardcover book)
At least 30 interlocking bronze gears inside
Some gears small as coins
Density rivals modern Swiss watch
An analog computer designed to predict the cosmos
The Front Interface (4:30-5:24)
Large dial tracking Egyptian solar calendar (365 days)
Why Egyptian? Consistent—Greek lunar calendars were messy for astronomers
Zodiac dial: 12 constellations (coordinate system for sky)
Pointers for sun, moon, AND all 5 visible planets (Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn)
Little golden sphere rotated to show moon phases (half black, half gold)
Could see exactly what moon would look like that night
The Back: Deep Math (5:24-6:53)
Two large spiral dials where "the deep math happens"
Top dial: Metonic Cycle
19-year period synchronizing moon phases with solar year
235 lunar months to 19 solar years
Calculating this mechanically: "a nightmare"
Lower dial: Saros Cycle
18-year cycle predicting eclipses
Markings showed if solar or lunar eclipse
What time of day it would happen
Psychological power: could predict "terrifying omens" years in advance
Games Dial
Tracked 4-year cycle of Panhellenic Games
Olympics, Pythian Games, Nemean Games
"Device calculating cosmos... and a dial saying 'wrestling match in 2 years'"
Shows user was high society, not isolated astronomer
Why Build This? (6:53-7:38)
The sky wasn't just data—it was "the operating system for reality"
Told you when to plant, sail, go to war
Astrology: planet positions determined fate
Modeling heavens = understanding cosmic order, maybe mind of gods
Not just science—an attempt to decode destiny
The Engineering Problem (7:38-9:09)
Greeks believed Earth was center (geocentric model)
Planets don't move in neat lines—they wander
Retrograde motion: planets slow, stop, move backward
Now we know: illusion from Earth overtaking planets in orbit
Then: completely bizarre if Earth is stationary
Solution: Epicyclic theory (circles moving on circles)
The Pin-and-Slot Mechanism: Crown jewel of device
One gear with offset pin (not center—key detail)
Pin sits in rectangular slot on second gear
First gear turns at constant speed
Pin slides in slot, changes leverage
Pin close to center: pushes quickly
Pin rotates out: gear slows down
Creates variable speed output from constant input
Perfectly mimics moon's elliptical orbit (Kepler's laws)
This solution doesn't appear in European engineering again until 14th century
1,400 years early
The User Experience (9:09-10:00)
Hand crank on side—just turn it
Fast-forward time, watch planets dance around zodiac
Speed up, slow down, reverse
Made abstract math into a movie
"Made the invisible visible"
Ultimate luxury gadget of its day
The Instruction Manual (10:00-10:49)
Modern X-rays found text hidden in corrosion
Thousands of characters of ancient Greek
Inscribed on internal surfaces and covers
Literal user manual explaining dials, cycles, pointer colors
Confirms: not for navigation—demonstration/teaching tool
2021: UCL team used text to reconstruct entire front dial system
Found builders knew incredibly complex planetary periods
Example: 462-year cycle for Venus
Who Built It? (10:49-11:24)
Evidence points to Rhodes
Intellectual hub of Mediterranean at the time
Astronomer Hipparchus worked there
Discovered moon's variable speed (what pin-and-slot models)
Cicero's eyewitness account: visited Rhodes, studied under Posidonius
Cicero describes device showing sun, moon, 5 wandering stars
"Almost certainly the same technology"
Not a one-off—high-end product
The Ship & The Customer (11:24-11:54)
Found on massive luxury goods transport
Full of statues, expensive glass
Mechanism was cargo, likely headed to wealthy Roman aristocrat in Rome
Status symbol: "I hold the entire universe in a box on my coffee table"
Where Did It Go? (11:54-13:14)
If they had this in 60 BCE, why millennium-long technological dark age?
Answer: recycling
Metal too valuable—broken machines melted down for swords, coins, pots
Bronze infinitely recyclable
This mechanism only survived because it sank
"The ocean saved it from the scrap heap"
Couldn't have been the only one—design too refined
"You don't build iPhone 1 without clunky prototypes"
All others melted down
Knowledge fragile: no cloud backup, apprenticeship-based
Master dies before apprentice learns = knowledge evaporates
Break in chain when centers like Rhodes disrupted by Roman conquest
Echoes in Later History (13:14-13:40)
Medieval Islamic scholars: beautiful astrolabes
But not this level of geared complexity
14th century: astronomical clocks in Europe (Prague)
"Humans had to reinvent the gear all over again"
Lost 1,000 years of mechanical progress
The Missing 20% (13:40-14:09)
Researchers decoded ~80% of device's functions
Gears that don't connect to anything we understand yet
Possible functions: stellar tracking, more complex astrological predictions
Lost to damage
"What if this wasn't even the most advanced thing they built?"
"What if this was the budget model?"
The Haunting Questions (14:09-14:29)
Thousands of unexplored shipwrecks
This found by accident on one dive
Ocean = library of lost knowledge
Our own technological dominance might be fragile
"If the servers go down, how much of our knowledge survives 2,000 years?"
This episode is based on our newsletter deep-dive: The Antikythera Mechanism: The 2,000-Year-Old Computer That Shouldn't Exist
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Transcript
Speaker 1 (0:00) Welcome to Obscurarium, where we shed a light on history's most obscure corners. In today's deep dive, we're looking at something that, well, it's less an artifact and more of a glitch in the timeline.
Speaker 2 (0:14) A glitch is the perfect word for it. We're talking about an object that logically just shouldn't exist. Right. It's an engineering miracle that sat at the bottom of the ocean for 2,000 years. And when it was found, it completely rewrote what we thought we knew about the ancient world.
Speaker 1 (0:31) It really challenges that neat linear view of history that we all kind of have. That comfortable idea that technology just gets better and better in a straight line.
Speaker 2 (0:39) Exactly. This thing proves that humanity can reach these incredible heights of sophistication and then just forget.
Speaker 1 (0:47) So the story begins with a storm.
Speaker 2 (0:49) As so many good stories do. It's the spring of 1900 and a gale is absolutely tearing apart a team of sponge divers. Their captain, a man named Demetrios Kondos, is just trying to keep his crew alive. And this gale blows them way, way off course. They're forced to shelter near this tiny barren rock.
Speaker 1 (1:08) It's called Antikythera. It's barely a speck on the map between Crete and mainland Greece.
Speaker 2 (1:14) Not a place you'd ever go on purpose.
Speaker 1 (1:16) Definitely not. It's a shipping hazard, really. But the storm clears, and these are working men. They're already there. The water's calm. So they decide to dive. Why not?
Speaker 2 (1:27) Right. So one of the divers, Elias Stadiatis, he puts on the gear of the era.
Speaker 1 (1:32) Which was, what, a heavy canvas suit and a big copper helmet?
Speaker 2 (1:35) Pretty much. And he descends about 42 meters. A few minutes later, he shoots back up to the surface. In a total panic.
Speaker 1 (1:44) Complete panic. He's ripping his helmet off. He's babbling. Just incoherent. And he's telling the captain he sees naked women and horses rotting on the seabed.
Speaker 2 (1:55) Which, if you're a dive captain, is terrifying.
Speaker 1 (1:58) Oh, yeah. The captain immediately assumes it's nitrogen narcosis, the rapture of the deep. It causes vivid hallucinations. It can kill you. So Captain Kondos thinks his diver is losing his mind. He actually puts on the suit himself and goes down. Fully expecting to find nothing but sand and rocks. But when he hits the bottom, he realizes the hallucinations are solid. It's a shipwreck.
Speaker 2 (2:22) And not just any shipwreck. Yeah. A massive Roman merchant vessel from around 60 BCE. And its hull is just split open. Those naked women Elias saw—there were marble statues. The horses were bronze sculptures, all green and corroded.
Speaker 1 (2:38) It must have been an incredible sight.
Speaker 2 (2:40) An unbelievable haul. Over the next year, they brought up glass, jewelry, the famous Antikythera Youth statue.
Speaker 1 (2:48) But amidst all this treasure, you know, the stuff museums usually fight over, they brought up something else. A corroded, greenish lump about the size of a shoebox. It looked like nothing. Just junk.
Speaker 2 (3:02) Yeah. Wood and bronze all fused together by two millennia of calcification. Nobody cared. So for two years, it just sat in a storage room at the museum in Athens. While everyone was fawning over the beautiful statues. Until May 17th, 1902. An archaeologist named Valerios Stais decides to take a closer look.
Speaker 1 (3:21) And what he saw changed everything.
Speaker 2 (3:23) The lump had cracked open, probably just from drying out in the air. And inside, gleaming in the light, he saw a gear. A precision-cut bronze gear in a rock from 60 BCE. Mm-hmm. That's the moment the timeline broke.
Speaker 1 (3:40) It just stopped everyone in their tracks. You have to understand, Roman ships didn't have gears like this.
Speaker 2 (3:45) No. Intricate clockwork with those precise triangular teeth all working together. That technology does not show up in the historical record for another 1,200 years.
Speaker 1 (3:56) It's like finding a jet engine in King Tut's tomb.
Speaker 2 (3:59) That's the famous comparison, right?
Speaker 1 (4:00) It is, and it's not an exaggeration. It's that out of place. So we call it the Antikythera Mechanism, and for decades it was this technological ghost. A mystery nobody could solve, because the tools to look inside the corrosion just didn't exist yet. But now, with modern science, specifically high-resolution X-ray tomography...
Speaker 2 (4:21) We can see inside.
Speaker 1 (4:22) We know what it is. Physically, what are we looking at?
Speaker 2 (4:26) It was a wooden box, about the size of a big hardcover book, maybe 34 by 18 centimeters. But "box" doesn't really do it justice.
Speaker 1 (4:34) Not at all. Inside, it had at least 30 interlocking bronze gears, some as small as coins, all packed together with a density that I've read rivals a modern Swiss watch.
Speaker 2 (4:45) It was a computer. An analog computer designed to predict the cosmos.
Speaker 1 (4:51) Okay, so let's walk through the interface. On the front face, there was a big dial. What did it track?
Speaker 2 (4:57) It tracked the calendar. But interestingly, it was the Egyptian solar calendar. 365 days. Why Egyptian? Because it was consistent. Greek lunar calendars were a mess for astronomers. Months didn't line up neatly with the solar year. The Egyptian system was the scientific standard.
Speaker 1 (5:16) Got it. And alongside the calendar?
Speaker 2 (5:18) A dial for the zodiac. The 12 constellations. That was the coordinate system for the sky.
Speaker 1 (5:24) But here's where that jet engine part really kicks in. It had pointers. Not just for the sun and the moon. But for all five planets you can see with the naked eye. Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn. And the level of detail on the interface is just beautiful. There was a little golden sphere that rotated to show you the phase of the moon.
Speaker 2 (5:46) So half black, half gold.
Speaker 1 (5:48) Exactly. You could look at this device and know exactly what the moon would look like in the sky that night. Which is incredibly useful in a world with no streetlights.
Speaker 2 (5:57) Absolutely. But the front is really just the display. The back of the device is where the deep math happens. Two large spiral dials. The top one tracks something called the Metonic cycle.
Speaker 1 (6:09) The Metonic cycle is a 19-year period. It's the magic number that synchronizes the moon's phases with the solar year. It's the sync point between the sun and moon.
Speaker 2 (6:20) Right. And calculating that mechanically is a nightmare. The gearing required to track that ratio—235 lunar months to 19 solar years—is incredibly specific. Then there's the lower dial, the Saros cycle. This is an 18-year cycle used to predict eclipses. Now imagine the psychological power of that.
Speaker 1 (6:41) Oh, immense. In the ancient world, an eclipse wasn't just a shadow. It was a terrifying omen. The sun disappearing. That's the gods being angry. That's a king about to fall. And this little box could tell you years in advance exactly when the sky was going to go dark.
Speaker 2 (7:00) Records show there were even little markings on the dial to show if it would be a solar or lunar eclipse. And what time of day it would happen. It's stunning.
Speaker 1 (7:10) But there's one detail in the back that I just find so delightfully human. The games dial.
Speaker 2 (7:16) The games dial. Tucked away in a corner was a smaller dial tracking the four-year cycle of the Panhellenic Games. Including the Olympics, the Pythian Games, the Nemean Games.
Speaker 1 (7:27) It's fantastic, isn't it? This box is calculating the terrifying movements of the cosmos, predicting the death of the sun. And right next to it, a little dial says, "Hey, don't forget, the wrestling match is on in two years."
Speaker 2 (7:40) It grounds the whole thing. It tells you the user wasn't just some isolated astronomer.
Speaker 1 (7:45) No, this was someone involved in high society. Which brings us to the why. Why build this? We call it a computer, but for them, the sky wasn't just data.
Speaker 2 (7:56) No, the sky was the operating system for their reality.
Speaker 1 (7:59) Perfect way to put it. It told you when to plant, when to sail, when to go to war. And if you believe in astrology, which they all did, the sky revealed your fate. The positions of the planets determined destiny. So having a device that could model the heavens wasn't just science. It was an attempt to understand the cosmic order, maybe even the mind of the gods.
Speaker 2 (8:23) But the engineering to model that order, that's the part that just breaks my brain. Because they had a problem. The Greeks believed the Earth was the center of the universe, the geocentric model.
Speaker 1 (8:35) Right. And that creates a massive headache for anyone trying to build a model like this.
Speaker 2 (8:40) A huge one. Because if you watch the planets from Earth, they don't move in a neat line. They wander.
Speaker 1 (8:47) They do. Most of the time they move forward against the stars, but then they seem to slow down, stop, and actually move backward for a while. What we call retrograde motion.
Speaker 2 (8:58) Exactly. We know now it's just an illusion because Earth is overtaking them in orbit. But if you think Earth is stationary, that movement is completely bizarre. It's the wandering stars problem. And to solve it mathematically, they developed epicyclic theory.
Speaker 1 (9:13) So circles moving on other circles. It's incredibly complex geometry. But what's so amazing is that the Antikythera Mechanism didn't just calculate this, it modeled it mechanically. This is the pin-and-slot mechanism. The crown jewel of the whole device.
Speaker 2 (9:29) It's pure genius. Okay, let's try to visualize this. You have one gear with a pin sticking out of it, but not from the center. It's offset.
Speaker 1 (9:38) That's the absolute key.
Speaker 2 (9:39) And that offset pin sits inside a little rectangular slot on a second gear.
Speaker 1 (9:44) Right. So as the first gear turns at a constant speed, the pin slides back and forth in that slot.
Speaker 2 (9:50) Pushing the second gear. And because the pin is sliding, it changes the leverage. When the pin is close to the center of the second gear, it pushes it quickly. When it rotates further out, the gear slows down. It creates a variable speed output from a constant speed input.
Speaker 1 (10:08) And that variable speed perfectly mimics the way the moon appears to speed up and slow down in its elliptical orbit. Something we now know as one of Kepler's laws. And that specific solution, the pin and slot, it does not appear in European engineering again until the 14th century.
Speaker 2 (10:26) 1,400 years early.
Speaker 1 (10:28) They had it. And then was lost.
Speaker 2 (10:31) And for all that complexity on the inside, the user experience was just...
Speaker 1 (10:35) Oh, absolutely. You didn't need to be a mathematician. There was a hand crank on the side. You just turned it. And you could fast-forward time, watch the planets dance around the zodiac, speed up, slow down, reverse. It made abstract math into a movie.
Speaker 2 (10:51) It made the invisible visible. It was the ultimate luxury gadget of its day. We mentioned the X-rays, but I want to go a bit deeper on the instruction manual.
Speaker 1 (11:00) Ah, yes. This was one of the biggest revelations from the modern research. X-rays found text. Hidden inside the corrosion. Thousands of characters of ancient Greek inscribed on the internal surfaces and the covers of the device. It's literally a user manual.
Speaker 2 (11:17) It is. It explains the dials, the cycles, even what colors the pointers were. It confirms this wasn't for navigation on the ship itself. It was a demonstration device, a teaching tool.
Speaker 1 (11:29) Precisely. And in 2021, a team from UCL used that text to reconstruct the entire front dial system.
Speaker 2 (11:36) And that's how they found out the builders knew these incredibly complex planetary periods. Like, what was it, a 462-year cycle for Venus?
Speaker 1 (11:45) The accuracy is just stunning. But who built it? The evidence points to one place, doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (11:52) It points pretty strongly to the island of Rhodes. At that time, Rhodes was the intellectual superstar of the Mediterranean. It was the hub for astronomy.
Speaker 1 (12:02) And the great astronomer Hipparchus had worked there. He's the one who discovered the moon's variable speed. The very motion that the pin-and-slot mechanism models so perfectly.
Speaker 2 (12:13) And there's an eyewitness account, isn't there, from the Roman writer Cicero.
Speaker 1 (12:17) There is. Cicero visited Rhodes. He studied under a philosopher named Posidonius. And in his writings, Cicero describes a device made by Posidonius that showed the movements of the sun, the moon, and the five wandering stars.
Speaker 2 (12:31) It sounds exactly like that. It's almost certainly the same technology. So this wasn't a one-off. This was a high-end product.
Speaker 1 (12:39) Which would fit with the ship it was on—a massive transport for luxury goods. Full of statues, expensive glass. This mechanism was cargo, probably on its way to a wealthy Roman aristocrat in Rome.
Speaker 2 (12:52) It was a status symbol. "Look at me, I hold the entire universe in a box on my coffee table."
Speaker 1 (12:58) Pretty much. But this brings us to the most frustrating question of all. Where did it go?
Speaker 2 (13:04) Exactly. If they had this in 60 BCE—gears, differentials, variable speed drives—why did we spend the next millennium in a technological dark age?
Speaker 1 (13:14) The simplest and most tragic answer is recycling. Metal was just too valuable.
Speaker 2 (13:20) Incredibly valuable. Yeah. If you have a broken machine, especially one this complex, you don't keep the broken box. You melt it down. You make a sword or a coin or a cooking pot.
Speaker 1 (13:30) Exactly. Bronze is infinitely recyclable. This mechanism only survived because it sank. The ocean saved it from the scrap heap.
Speaker 2 (13:38) So this couldn't have been the only one.
Speaker 1 (13:40) It's highly unlikely. The design is too refined, too confident. You don't build the iPhone 1 without a lot of clunky prototypes first.
Speaker 2 (13:49) Well, there were others. They were just all melted down.
Speaker 1 (13:52) All melted down. And it also speaks to how fragile knowledge was back then. There was no cloud backup, no PDFs. It was apprenticeship-based. You learn from the master. When the centers of learning, like Rhodes, were disrupted by Roman conquest, if the master dies before the apprentice learns the trick—
Speaker 2 (14:11) That knowledge just evaporates. It's a break in the chain.
Speaker 1 (14:15) We do see echoes of it later on.
Speaker 2 (14:17) We do. In the Middle Ages, Islamic scholars built beautiful astrolabes, brass disks that solved similar problems. But not with this level of geared complexity.
Speaker 1 (14:28) Not usually, no. And then finally, in the 14th century, you get the great astronomical clocks in Europe, like the one in Prague.
Speaker 2 (14:35) So humans basically had to reinvent the gear all over again.
Speaker 1 (14:39) We lost a thousand years of mechanical progress because the manual got lost at sea.
Speaker 2 (14:44) It really forces you to confront this idea of civilizational forgetting.
Speaker 1 (14:49) It does. We assume progress is a one-way street. That once you discover something, it's ours forever. But this proves we can lose incredibly sophisticated capabilities for a millennium. And here's where it gets even more provocative. We still don't know everything about it.
Speaker 2 (15:07) We don't?
Speaker 1 (15:08) No. Researchers estimate they've only really decoded about 80% of the device's functions.
Speaker 2 (15:15) So there's a missing 20%.
Speaker 1 (15:17) A haunting missing 20%. There are gears that don't seem to connect to anything we understand yet. There might have been functions for stellar tracking or even more complex astrological predictions that are just lost to damage.
Speaker 2 (15:31) Which makes you wonder what else is down there.
Speaker 1 (15:34) The sea is the world's greatest museum. There are thousands of unexplored shipwrecks. This was found on one dive by accident. What if this wasn't even the most advanced thing they built?
Speaker 2 (15:46) What if this was the budget model?
Speaker 1 (15:48) That is a thought that will keep me up at night. It changes how you look at the ocean. It's not a graveyard. It's a library of lost knowledge. And it's a good reminder that our own technological dominance might be more fragile than we think. If the servers go down, how much of our knowledge survives for 2,000 years?
Speaker 2 (16:09) A very sobering thought to end on. Indeed. Thank you for listening to Obscurarium. If you enjoyed this deep dive and want more of these, please subscribe to this podcast and find us at Obscurarium.com for even more content, including our weekly newsletter. Until next time.
Further Reading
Books:
Jo Marchant, Decoding the Heavens: A 2,000-Year-Old Computer—and the Century-Long Search to Discover Its Secrets (Da Capo Press, 2009)
Alexander Jones, A Portable Cosmos: Revealing the Antikythera Mechanism, Scientific Wonder of the Ancient World (Oxford University Press, 2017)
Academic Sources:
Tony Freeth et al., "Decoding the ancient Greek astronomical calculator known as the Antikythera Mechanism," Nature 444 (2006): 587-591
UCL Antikythera Research Team, "A Model of the Cosmos in the ancient Greek Antikythera Mechanism," Scientific Reports 11 (2021)
X-ray Analysis:
High-resolution X-ray tomography studies from 2005-2021
Ancient Greek inscription analysis from internal surfaces
Historical Context:
Cicero's writings on Posidonius's astronomical device
Hipparchus's astronomical observations from Rhodes
Full source list available in the newsletter: obscurarium.com/antikythera
This episode is based on our newsletter deep-dive: The Antikythera Mechanism
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